Brooks: Hello and welcome back to the awesome mountain biking podcast as always i'm
Brooks: your host brooks lawson aka the mountain biking realtor and you can find all
Brooks: things brooks at brookslawson.com,
Brooks: i got a co-host today which is dale doherty of mtb atx and uh we've had dale
Brooks: on the show before we're still planning to get him his own show in the near
Brooks: future but this show is going to be about Scott Smith.
Brooks: Scott is probably best known for his appearance at Crankworx in 2018. Would you agree?
Scott: Yeah, I suppose so.
Brooks: So his foray into mountain biking was documented by none other than Seth Alvo,
Brooks: aka Seth Bike Hacks, aka Burn Peak.
Brooks: So Scott, why don't you get us started off by telling about your history with
Brooks: biking and, you know, if you want to throw some things about Seth and your guys'
Brooks: relationship in there, that'd be interesting to hear about.
Scott: Cool. Yeah. So, uh, Seth has pretty much been around since almost the beginning.
Scott: Um, I started riding BMX when my dad told me there's a bike specially made for
Scott: doing wheelies all the way down the street.
Scott: And I had this little, you know, kind of downward hill.
Scott: And I just imagined some guy riding down on his back wheel. And I was like, my mind is blown.
Scott: He, uh, picked up red from the library on VHS.
Scott: And then, uh, I don't think we ever returned it. We just, man,
Scott: we, I just, I just destroyed that tape just on repeat. My family hated me.
Scott: I would not stop watching it.
Scott: um eventually got a bmx bike um what.
Brooks: Is rad oh.
Scott: So rad is kind of the movie that
Scott: got everybody into bmx back in the day when i was a kid um basically about a
Scott: hometown kid who has a chance to either take his sats or go race hell track
Scott: and uh he's super talented and just kind of dedicated wants to dedicate his
Scott: life to bikes instead of school and fights with his mom and uh.
Scott: Definitely. Uh, I, I definitely understood the appeal.
Scott: So, um, yeah, got a BMX bike, proceeded to break every part off of it over and over again.
Scott: Um, got a better BMX bike, um, met Seth and we just went out street riding,
Scott: building trails and, um, hanging out.
Scott: So he, um, he basically, uh, you know, progressed with me and,
Scott: um, you know, we fell in love with riding together and rode every day.
Scott: And then eventually lost contact. Um, you know, years and years later,
Scott: he reaches out to me and basically said, Hey, Scott, have you ridden a mountain bike?
Scott: And I said, no, why would I, you know, in my mind, I had the older view of mountain
Scott: bikers because they had progressed a lot since then.
Scott: But like the, you know, 40 something year old guy, kind of just riding over
Scott: a little log and being like, wow, I just got so extreme, um,
Scott: you know, compared to BMX, it's just, it wasn't what I was looking for.
Scott: so um he's like well you know you know you never really rode brakes which i
Scott: didn't and you know to kind of address that i do have brakes on my bike in that
Scott: video but it's only because i put them on because i had a torn acl and i literally
Scott: couldn't stop you know jamming my foot in the back tire.
Scott: Um he's like you know i have a proposition for you and i was like i'm in you
Scott: know he's like dude we haven't talked in years and i'm like i don't care it's
Scott: you seth is a wild man i was like i'm in And he goes, well,
Scott: you know, I have a YouTube mountain biking channel and I got invited to do a
Scott: kind of a, I guess, documentary kind of video for Dirt Diaries alongside Crankworx 2018.
Scott: And, you know, he kind of had to, for what I understand, he had to submit a
Scott: script and get it approved.
Scott: And the idea was since he, since I introduced him to my love of BMX,
Scott: he would introduce me to his love of mountain biking.
Scott: He basically said, we're going to put you on a mountain bike for the first time
Scott: on Whistler Mountain, just film the carnage. And I was like, let's go.
Scott: So I was, I didn't, had no idea what I was in for. You know,
Scott: he flew out. I really didn't look too much into mountain biking.
Scott: I want to have, just have it be an experience.
Scott: You know, I didn't start watching videos or learning tips or anything like that.
Scott: That's pretty crazy, but I trust him. Maybe I shouldn't have.
Scott: He put me down to Schleyer, one of the first runs, which is double black tech. Absolutely crazy.
Scott: Yeah, we flew out to Whistler and I got on the mountain bike and it felt,
Scott: it felt crazy to me. It felt wrong.
Scott: It felt like I was doing something that just was the opposite of what I should be doing on BMX.
Scott: And then by day three, I had done A-Line. I had done Dirt Merchant.
Scott: I did Dwayne Johnson, which is a pro line.
Scott: And there was something about the aspect of nature can be a skate park that really appealed to me.
Scott: And from that point, I was... I hope this is answering your question.
Scott: I'm just kind of on a tangent.
Brooks: And the tangents are what it's all about.
Scott: From that point, I was very confused. uh, about what part of mountain biking that I want to do.
Scott: I knew I wanted to do it, but I, I kind of felt weird being on the trails.
Scott: I couldn't keep up. I was out of shape.
Scott: I was always looking for BMX sort of inspired things that, you know,
Scott: I mentioned in the video, you see a rock that could be a launch,
Scott: you know, and gap out over a log or something.
Scott: And I didn't realize there was kind of a, a side of mountain biking called free ride.
Scott: So now I'm, you know, after the past three years of trying to figure it out,
Scott: I finally understand what free Freeride is like, it makes sense in my mind.
Scott: Cause you know, I didn't know what Enduro was or XC was or Freeride or just
Scott: trail riding or whatever it might be.
Scott: And then, um, just fell in love with Freeride.
Scott: It feels like, it feels like big, crazy BMX in a different, just a different way.
Scott: It's the other side of the coin, you know, BMX is, is about,
Scott: you know, a little bit more about precision.
Scott: Freeride's more about just, you can just go so much bigger and that's kind of
Scott: where i am today so you know i've said thank for renewing my my next chapter i.
Brooks: Mean this is a very a very uh noticeable thing you do that a lot of other i've
Brooks: seen a lot of other you know people who transition from bmx do is that they
Brooks: ride mountain bikes and they're constantly like scoping out the trail and looking
Brooks: for like different shit to ride.
Scott: Yep it's uh from street riding yeah because where i grew up you know we didn't
Scott: really have much we used to try and dig dirt jumps but they just get plowed
Scott: just next week every time and we didn't know what we were doing.
Scott: Um, street riding on the other hand was like, just go out, get creative and
Scott: just use your, your imagination.
Scott: And that's really what, um, that's still the way I look at things today.
Brooks: For sure. Uh, so what was your experience like post crank works?
Brooks: Uh, did you get a lot of attention?
Brooks: Um, you know, a bunch of followers and like that.
Scott: It was kind of, yeah, it was, it's kind of weird. Like people,
Scott: it's always stopped me on trails. Like, Hey, you're that guy from that thing.
Scott: And I'd be like, I just kind of wait for a second. They're like Seth's video.
Scott: And I'm like, you know, it was exciting. It was cool. Um, I kept texting Seth
Scott: like, Oh my God, someone stopped me at Whole Foods and talking about mountain biking.
Scott: Um, not like a whole lot of, I mean, maybe a bunch of followers.
Scott: I don't have crazy amount, but probably a bunch of people from that.
Scott: I don't think people knew where to find me or what to think or you
Scott: know I didn't have any of my my stuff geared towards hey I
Scott: was doing BMX but like I didn't like promote any of that stuff so not really
Scott: but it's definitely been cool meeting a lot of people from all over who uh stopped
Scott: me and I still get you know it's an angel fire get stopped and um you know whenever
Scott: I go on trips California people seem to know me from that video which is pretty exciting that's.
Brooks: Cool and does that I mean do you like that or I know it's something that some
Brooks: people don't like they don't want to be approached how do you feel about that I.
Scott: Love it yeah yeah i mean i've always been really shy when i was a kid and making
Scott: friends it's kind of hard for me so having people just come up and be like hey
Scott: dude what's up it's like it helps you know because i'm that guy who's always
Scott: trying to be like hey you want to get a ride together or try and make friends
Scott: and you know for me i'll usually just kind of sit in the background just do
Scott: my thing and hope like-minded people approach me for.
Brooks: Sure um so what percent of the time would you say these days you spend riding
Brooks: or thinking about bmx as opposed to mountain bike or free ride.
Scott: Dude Dude, that's so tough. So I definitely think about BMX here and there because
Scott: there's certain things you can't do on a mountain bike that you can do on a BMX.
Scott: And there are certain aspects I miss, like, you know, quarter pipes and stuff,
Scott: which I'm trying to find quarter pipes for my big bike, which is something that's
Scott: coming into freeride more and more.
Scott: But I miss pegs. I definitely texted my man Dale over there recently.
Scott: Do you know anybody who has a 3D printer? He said, you do.
Brooks: Oh, I do have one, yeah.
Scott: And I came up with a scheme to put pegs on my, on my full suspension Enduro bike, um,
Scott: I definitely texted a few people about that and they said, what's wrong with
Scott: you? Like, like you have problems. Don't do it.
Brooks: It sounds like it would make a interesting content.
Scott: Seth definitely said he was like, bro, what, what the hell?
Brooks: Yeah.
Dale: I was wondering if you would have asked him about like, maybe,
Dale: Hey, the engineering side of things, surely there's some bike manufacturer engineer
Dale: that's going to see that and shake their head and be like, Oh,
Dale: we never intended this. Yeah.
Scott: That's the thing is he has that engineer brain, right? So that's,
Scott: he's the first person I texted. And he was like, dude, you need a nap or something, man. Like, what?
Scott: So I still found a way to do it. I still think I'm going to do it.
Scott: You know, Dylan Stark, somebody I look at, because he rides very similarly to
Scott: the way I would dream of riding.
Scott: He kind of just has that eye, that former BMXer, what can you do on a mountain bike, like no limits.
Scott: it's for me um i think
Scott: he's a little bit braver than i am as far as like being um open-minded
Scott: and and not living in a box i like for whatever
Scott: reason i see other people do things i'm like oh that's cool i want to do it
Scott: too and instead of being brave and inventing stuff and i definitely saw a post
Scott: of his where he was doing a pedal grind and someone said oh put pegs on a mountain
Scott: bike and he said you know in the comments pedals pegs don't belong on a mountain
Scott: bike and then and then And Gabriel Wimber,
Scott: he put pegs on a mountain bike, and I thought that was cool.
Scott: He, of course, had Canyon behind him engineering. I'm sure it took nine months to figure out.
Scott: But what I figured out is just a 3D printer and a lot of luck. So if you're down.
Brooks: Do you know how to do 3D design?
Scott: Dale can help me with that, I'm sure.
Dale: Delegated.
Brooks: So what's your contribution to this?
Scott: What me i will i will definitely find a lot of crazy rails to send myself down,
Scott: yeah i definitely uh rails were one of my favorite things on bmx so i think
Scott: the biggest one i did was like a 24 stair we'll.
Dale: Get entertainment out of this.
Scott: Yeah and definitely uh be entertaining that's for sure so.
Brooks: Speaking of dylan stark uh you guys both actually just returned from the dylan
Brooks: stark jam in california uh tell us who dylan stark is what that event was um
Brooks: and how what it was like Like, what was your experience?
Scott: So he throws a gym at his local trails on 420 every year. And they're kind of
Scott: like BMX style trails for a mountain bike.
Scott: And they have some really big jumps there. So just wanted to go, want to push my limits.
Scott: It's hard to find a jump with a 12 foot lip. I have a photo of Dale standing
Scott: next to it. And it's just, it just shows how ridiculous the jump is.
Scott: So, you know, I just set my sights on going, you know, booked a ticket.
Scott: Dale came along to film and hang out and ride.
Scott: And it's awesome traveling with him. I mean, he and I think very similarly about things.
Scott: And then, uh, you know, I went out there, I messaged, you know,
Scott: I, I posted that I was going, Dylan hit me up and said, I could come out to day six of Stark week.
Scott: Um, you know, which I know they're doing their thing, they're filming for,
Scott: for their video, but it was really kind of him to say, come on out,
Scott: check out the trails, kind of get to preview them, um, see all the pros,
Scott: just absolute murder, um, stuff like that.
Scott: Every time it's just, it's amazing to watch and just being part of that.
Scott: So I feel very fortunate. One of my big things is I absolutely love to go get
Scott: to ride stuff people don't get to ride.
Scott: I love riding the big jumps at Bentonville Bike Fest. That's exciting for me.
Scott: So to be part of something that was invite-only felt really special.
Scott: And then the 420 Gym is where it's open invite. Anybody can come out.
Scott: So we went out there, had an absolute blast, got to hang with everybody, meet everybody. body.
Scott: And, you know, one of the big things for me is I've, I don't know if I'd say
Scott: lofty goals, but I want to do a lot of stuff in mountain biking and just starting
Scott: to get to meet people and, you know, the world's about people and, you know, hopefully,
Scott: uh, hopefully I can do more and more cool stuff because just,
Scott: you know, meeting people and I guess connections and whatnot.
Brooks: Networking.
Scott: Networking.
Brooks: Yeah.
Scott: Yeah.
Dale: Very few people realize there's the business aspect of it too. So.
Scott: So, yeah, it's weird. It's hard to look at it like that, but I mean,
Scott: I just kind of think of it as who do you want to hang out with,
Scott: you know, hopefully I'm around, hopefully people think what I do is cool and
Scott: want to hang out with me and I get opportunities to do really cool stuff, man.
Scott: That's, that's the biggest thing for me is I've always just wanted to,
Scott: Just to do the cool stuff that came up, like I was lucky enough to ride the X Games.
Scott: Before they had X Games in Austin, they threw events in each city.
Scott: I think there were three or four cities they were considering.
Scott: And only a certain number of people got invited to ride it.
Scott: And when I showed up, somehow, I don't know how I got invited,
Scott: but I showed up and it's this huge street course, huge box jump right in front of the state capitol.
Scott: And I have a picture of myself doing a tuck no hander in front of the state
Scott: capitol in this X Games event before X Games, which did come to Austin,
Scott: we kind of put out the biggest, I guess, a show out and they picked Austin.
Scott: And like, that's a hugely fond memory for me.
Scott: You know, those sorts of things I absolutely love getting into.
Scott: So, you know, I look back fondly on getting out to day six, you know,
Scott: it was dark week, me and Dale helping set up, put caution tape all over and,
Scott: you know, put up the 420 jam sign and, you know, stuff like that.
Scott: That's cool. It's amazing.
Dale: Amazing who was your favorite writer of that week i.
Scott: Mean dylan's you know my favorite writer just hands down like i'll watch his
Scott: videos and just get inspired all day but curtis downs man good god tommy crell
Scott: was was throwing some crazy stuff i mean everybody out there you know going crazy it's.
Dale: Kind of wild watching andre shuffle yeah.
Scott: Oh my i was just gonna ask you who was your favorite i.
Dale: Think between curtis and andres it was while just watching him crash over and
Dale: over again and then get back on the bike and send it bigger and bigger and like
Dale: the air that they're getting was just ridiculous that was like in.
Scott: The middle of a 360 tuck no hander or something like.
Dale: Yeah yeah i do think it is um i agree though like my personal favorite is starting
Dale: to get very uh it's still on like let's just and for a lot of the same reasons
Dale: you like him, I think also just kind of, uh, his personality I resonate with
Dale: mm-hmm um, he's like a lot of the people I would hang out with earlier,
Dale: um, in my twenties and everything,
Dale: but watching him actually in person, like we all saw,
Dale: you know his real heat videos and the dark fest stuff
Dale: and hitting that quarter pipe at dark fest
Dale: and those ridiculous whips but seeing that in person and just how long he would
Dale: have the bike leaned over for or how long he would be hung out there with that
Dale: whip and holding it and just like pretty much at the very last minute sometimes
Dale: even landing like sideways just absolutely mental yeah.
Scott: I mean i you know i feel like a little kid sometimes like i
Scott: get just crazy stoked out and inspired watching these guys almost to the point
Scott: where like you know it's i just can't get enough of it i just want to sit there
Scott: and hang out and watch and just kind of you know be a fan but i also want to
Scott: be part of it too so on to the next thing man let's figure out what we're doing
Scott: next you know green river classic.
Dale: Right right well so on sunday when we were in california you got to go to your
Dale: uh buddy's backyard yeah dan's house yeah dan iso my man yeah and he had like
Dale: just the most sick set of BMX trails back there.
Dale: And they're so compact. And I was like, how the hell is Scott going to hit any
Dale: of this? And eventually you found a line into the quarter pipe over the spine.
Dale: But that was kind of cool. And that was when I think you talk about big bike BMX stuff,
Dale: i think that was the perfect example of trying that out.
Scott: And getting a big bike to work on.
Dale: Those smaller features.
Scott: Yeah it's interesting because certain setups don't work like
Scott: you know i've tried to ride quarter pipes on my big bike like my downhill and
Scott: it just doesn't really work but a quarter pipe to a bank you know
Scott: that definitely works and you see the moto guys doing it right like colby
Scott: raha and stuff just blasting out on the x
Scott: games but um yeah his setup was
Scott: perfect now i've been looking for something like that in fact we tried to build something like
Scott: that down the trails and a bunch of uh you
Scott: know sarong kids came and had some fun and dug them
Scott: up so um yeah it's it's hard too because
Scott: the stuff i want to do requires stuff that most
Scott: people a would never hit b
Scott: want to build c it requires land and
Scott: patience and time and money and stuff so um that's
Scott: a big reason i travel too so much you know i and here in
Scott: austin we're getting you know people the crew the groups out
Scott: here are so amazing i mean we have best side we have rpr
Scott: um you know we have freeride 512 uh there's
Scott: so many amazing spots to ride and the stuff's getting bigger
Scott: man there's an appetite for it too and i feel like bentonville is really really
Scott: really cool and it does a lot of the mountain biking stuff great i feel like
Scott: not only does texas do mountain biking well but the freeride scene is is starting
Scott: to really grow i just have a funny feeling we're going to be a destination for
Scott: not just mountain biking but freeride here what do are we missing.
Dale: What are we missing what needs.
Scott: To happen jumps 70.
Brooks: Foot jumps yeah i think bentonville has been extremely influential like around
Brooks: the world um because every time it comes up and around here it's like what should
Brooks: we build like oh well there's this section in bentonville.
Scott: Where they.
Brooks: Have this trail and they build like this and we should do something like that,
Brooks: and i hear that all the time and it's it's awesome that um they have all that
Brooks: and they have that we're you know learning from them.
Scott: Yeah and rightfully so man they you know they do it it really well.
Scott: And, um, you know, I was lucky enough to hang out with some of the YT guys at
Scott: the gym, um, before bike fest, they built out, um, a line on Griffin loops property
Scott: and dude, they were really, really big jumps.
Scott: Uh, and they were built incredibly well. And I think, I think since YT has opened
Scott: a mill out there, they want to
Scott: kind of bring some of the bigger stuff to Bentonville and I hope they do.
Scott: Um, that, that line was amazing. It kind of showed maybe Bentonville there's
Scott: a appetite for stuff like that oh.
Dale: Yeah and with people like Joe Skoda.
Scott: And Bobby.
Dale: Are you know working on getting some of that big stuff.
Scott: The boys yeah doing their thing yeah so.
Brooks: Speaking of YT you ride YT how.
Scott: Many YT.
Brooks: Bikes do you have.
Scott: Uh, including my wife's.
Brooks: Sure.
Scott: I think seven.
Brooks: Oh my goodness.
Scott: I think seven. One's, one's a dirt jumper that I'm going to sell.
Scott: Cause I bought a same one, different color. Cause I like color.
Scott: Um, yeah, I mean, you know, I ride YTs because when I was kind of looking at,
Scott: you know, everybody I saw who's doing this stuff, I wanted to do spinning big
Scott: bikes, bar spins, tail whips, all that stuff. They're always on a YT.
Scott: And, um, I mean, i didn't
Scott: have a lot of money i didn't have ten thousand dollars for a yeti
Scott: those are amazing pivots are amazing stuff but they're very very expensive and
Scott: like you know also i wanted multiple bikes i wanted downhill i wanted a trail
Scott: bike i wanted a dirt jumper and um seeing all those guys just do what i wanted
Scott: to do and also have it be more on the affordable side like yt just made sense
Scott: to me and the funny thing about yt is and i don't know this is gonna sound but they're not
Scott: like bikes that you get on. You're like, Oh, this is nice ride.
Scott: Um, when I first got it, I was like, you know, I was on my diamond back for
Scott: what, three years. And I, you know, it's a bike you just get on pedal around and it feels good.
Brooks: That was a four C right?
Scott: Uh, five C.
Brooks: Five C. Yeah.
Scott: Thank you. Diamondback and Seth for hooking me up with the bike.
Scott: Cause I, you know, I don't know if it would have stuck if I didn't have a bike to ride.
Scott: Um, but yeah, when I get on the YT, it's kind of just like, Oh, okay.
Scott: Like I have to, you have to, I have to be aware and more an attack position i mean
Scott: every bike they make even the scepter which is their gravel bike is made with
Scott: downhill in mind um and then the moment you get it into a place you need you're
Scott: like okay that's why they build it that way like you know that bike the bigger
Scott: the jump the bigger the gap is when it feels better and better and better better
Scott: so um yeah man i'm you know love those bikes i.
Brooks: Just got a my first yt is a scepter but uh it's not built up yet i actually
Brooks: just Just got a message from Wes on the way here. They got my parts.
Brooks: So I'm excited to get that put together and start riding it.
Scott: It's such a cool bike.
Brooks: It's just, there's been so much rain here lately. And it just,
Brooks: I guess they're crazy. You know, I can't go ride my bike and like any other
Brooks: bike for when it's raining. Yeah.
Scott: I keep telling Taylor that my wife, that we need a scepter and a decoy,
Scott: the e-bike and all of them.
Brooks: Just get the whole thing.
Scott: And luckily for me, she's like, yeah, we do. And I'm like, okay,
Scott: wait, I can't be that irresponsible. Like I'm talking her out of it.
Scott: So I'm very lucky in that regard.
Dale: So then what's your favorite primary bike basically? And what's the build?
Scott: Oh, my, uh, two S the downhill with the single crown.
Scott: Um, I always want to be as prepared as i can for
Scott: whatever craziness you guys we went out on a little ride today at brushy
Scott: creek i'm in full face helmet fully padded up
Scott: ready to go i found some stuff to get into but like you
Scott: know the idea is who knows what i'm going to come across what
Scott: i'm going to see you know we're taking a little trail ride i see a drop off a
Scott: bridge i'm like okay i'm going to do that sort of thing like so if
Scott: i could ride my downhill bike everywhere i absolutely would i
Scott: rode around walnut creek once and some dude was like downhill bike what's wrong
Scott: with you like he got offended bended downhill bikes are polarizing to people
Scott: sometimes not really not just at walnut creek little trails but like i don't
Scott: know you show up at a downhill bike and people are like do you need all that
Scott: and it's like well i expect to you know even carson.
Dale: Storch was like what are you doing bro when we went to the my.
Scott: Downhill bike at the clinic and.
Dale: How many miles did we ride that day.
Scott: Oh my god yeah i was i was cooked by the end of that single speed it's set up
Scott: single speed we're riding from From Bentonville Bike Fest grounds all the way to Kohler.
Dale: Yeah, the hub. To drop the hammer. Did all that climb trail, single speed.
Scott: I'm like, Carson, I want a 360, the jump here. And he's like,
Scott: these are not the jumps of 360. I'm like, okay, sir.
Scott: But yeah, I have all sorts of wild ideas. And, you know, thank you,
Scott: Dale, for always saying like, okay, yeah, sure. That could be possible.
Scott: Let's get the camera out.
Dale: Hell yeah.
Scott: You know.
Brooks: Let's do it.
Scott: You know, I work a corporate job.
Scott: So I always have people like, don't get a concussion, don't break a bone.
Scott: And like, I don't do well with naysayers.
Scott: Shout out to my friend, Mikey Leplow. He's a BMXer, you know,
Scott: rode on mutiny and he hated naysayers.
Scott: And like, you know, I take inspiration from very strong people a lot of times.
Scott: And he used to just straight up just freak out on anybody who said,
Scott: you know, maybe you shouldn't. He's like, don't second guess me. Don't be a naysayer.
Scott: Don't be a hater. um so yeah you know keeping your mind right on stuff like
Scott: this is super important dude.
Dale: That helped me out today when you were like oh it's fun like when we were doing um mulligan.
Scott: Yeah yeah the big rock i was.
Dale: Afraid to go commit on it and you're like actually it's kind of fun it's.
Scott: Kind of fun like.
Dale: Oh okay well in that case.
Scott: Yeah i mean you know a lot of visualization a
Scott: lot of positive thinking a lot of like you know don't just just trust yourself
Scott: sort of stuff but i mean some of the stuff that i've been lucky enough to roll
Scott: up to in the past year or two you know like that 12 foot lip at dylan's trails
Scott: i'm like yeah geez man um yeah.
Dale: I was going through your mind looking down that line and working through it i.
Scott: Should have hit it already and i should have tricked it and that's before i
Scott: felt you know jumped off the first drop like for me i i
Scott: know i feel like i can if i can see it i can do it and i
Scott: just kind of get on myself like why haven't you done it yet you got
Scott: this like don't don't hesitate but everything
Scott: that was big it's a huge yeah big
Scott: big jump man but that's what i'm you know it's hard here's a here's the thing
Scott: about freeride that's really tough all the stuff that i say i want to do and
Scott: feel like i want to do i won't get to do until i if i'm ever lucky enough to
Scott: show up and look down the barrel of a 76 you know 80 90 foot jump.
Scott: I don't know until I'm there. Right. So like, imagine, I would say like,
Scott: Oh God, I'd love to ride dark fest.
Scott: Imagine I showed up dark fest tomorrow, looking at 110 foot jump.
Scott: Like, would I do that? I like to think yes, but I mean, it's,
Scott: it's a confidence game, you know, a lot of this.
Scott: So I'm just trying to travel around, get into as much as I can.
Scott: Like, that's why I'm looking forward to green river this year.
Scott: I had no idea what to expect last year. I saw the biggest stuff I've ever seen,
Scott: you know, um, the shot to, you know, Aiden parish, just,
Scott: standing right next to him as he no fruity cannon cannon and
Scott: suicide no hander like a 50 60 foot drop and i literally
Scott: stood at the top of it and just went there's no
Scott: landing and i was like yeah it's over there all the way down there i
Scott: was like no it's not possible there's no way and then just right past me and
Scott: i was just at first i said he's insane no one should ever do this this is this
Scott: is absurd and then i was like it's doable so i mean a big part of freeride is
Scott: like it lets me challenge much myself and kind of see what I'm, I'm capable of too.
Scott: So yeah, man, it's, it's reinvigorated everything.
Brooks: It's funny how quickly your mind changes on that kind of thing.
Scott: Dude, you have no idea. I, uh, you know, I, I want to, you know,
Scott: flip, I want to do flip variations, flat spins, tail whips, bar spins.
Scott: Um, I've had success varying degrees with all of those tricks.
Scott: Like, you know, at first I'm like, no, I'm good. Just ride and enjoy in life.
Scott: Next thing you know, know i'm just a dead man tricks everywhere like yeah it
Scott: changes real quick i'm ambitious so.
Brooks: So you guys just got back from bike fest as well.
Scott: How did that go.
Brooks: What was that like experience like.
Scott: And bike fest is always amazing all the bentonville people are really cool um
Scott: usually i get to see my guys at loam lander uh there every year they weren't
Scott: able to make it this year um but it was
Scott: amazing nonetheless so i mean think about it man it's bentonville in the first
Scott: place sure and then you have a million people all like-minded people gathered
Scott: uh you know for the for the right reasons i guess it's free so anybody can go
Scott: and then there's just a million people just trying to get rad like it was incredible
Scott: dale what'd you think man oh.
Dale: I thought it was sick um like the yt mill grand opening that was kind of neat i guess.
Scott: That was fun it.
Dale: Was cool to go to to Bentonville and have like so many, um, industry people
Dale: there and kind of like the bike celebrities and stuff like that.
Dale: And that was a neat experience, I guess.
Dale: Maybe, um, if you really want to ride and everything, that's not the best weekend to go.
Scott: It's so crowded.
Dale: Yeah, totally crowded. Uh, but I think for the experience and just the people
Dale: watching aspect of it and yeah, it was really neat.
Dale: Um, what was your favorite part of it? Do you think?
Scott: Um i don't really know honestly man
Scott: it's just so for me it's never
Scott: really one thing it's the whole experience it's getting coffee at onyx or at
Scott: heroes beforehand um you know just hang with the crew it's going out to dinner
Scott: at night i like that as much as as the riding um but drop the hammer was especially
Scott: fun this time yeah you know i was just trying to throw down on it throw down
Scott: as many tricks as possible this time so i was feeling good it was fun what was it like.
Dale: Uh what What was it like doing the YT dirt jump jam and everything?
Scott: Real talk? Yeah. Freaky. Yeah. It's freaky.
Scott: You know, I show up and it's me, a couple other guys who are rad,
Scott: who I, you know, don't really know. And then every pro ever.
Scott: And I'm looking at, you know, Carson Storch and Kyle Strait and just,
Scott: you know, Dylan Stark and all these guys.
Scott: And I'm like, these guys are unbelievable. I don't, what am I doing here? here.
Scott: So I just try and show up, do the best I can. But it was, it was the most rewarding experience.
Scott: Like, like for me, that that's what I love. I love going to things.
Scott: People don't aren't, you have to be lucky to go to stuff like that.
Scott: And for me, I feel very fortunate to get to do that.
Scott: And it just, it makes my whole life. That's, that's what I look forward to.
Scott: Like, you know, shout out to Seth for letting me do this Whistler thing back in 2018.
Scott: Like that was amazing like who gets to do that that's crazy
Scott: yeah you know so yeah the yt
Scott: gem was was incredible everybody's super nice um good
Scott: to see a couple people again um you know
Scott: talk to cal straight recognized me i was like oh my god like wow you know a
Scott: little fangirling yeah big time big time and then just i just tried to show
Scott: out and and just you know do well and you know earn my my place on those jumps
Scott: you know just throwing down whatever i could and it was amazing yeah.
Dale: I was super stoked on the rail yard session, I think, and just like running
Dale: into people from Austin in Bentonville.
Scott: The squad.
Dale: Yeah. And like we knew a lot of folks were going to be there the same weekend,
Dale: but there are some surprises too.
Brooks: Yeah. I think that happened even when we were there, like the whole time we
Brooks: were there, we're bumping into people from Austin.
Dale: Yeah. Like one of our homies from South Austin, he used to ride a lot of like
Dale: South Austin Trail Network on single speed, Jason Smith. He moved to Bentonville.
Dale: He got a job at Fat Tire. And so Clint had to get his bike fixed.
Dale: We needed a chain. And so we went into Fat Tire.
Dale: And he was the first person we saw when we went into Fat Tire.
Dale: We were like, hey, Jason, what's up?
Dale: And so we had a long conversation with him. That was pretty cool.
Dale: But then, yeah, just seeing so many people. Like we went into the YT mill for the grand opening.
Dale: And I saw Bobby from.
Brooks: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dale: Yeah.
Scott: Bobby Parker.
Dale: So he was no no bobby uh bobby badelic uh from oh from i.
Brooks: Was gonna say bobby parker works there too now.
Dale: Yeah no from austin and like i look up and uh on the second floor there's somebody
Dale: wearing this shirt actually dude.
Scott: How cool was that.
Dale: That was like the sickest thing and i was like wait what and i was like oh shit
Dale: it's bobby and uh i was like oh that's so sick um so yeah just it was like the
Dale: whole mtv family was up there in bentonville for that week.
Brooks: I think they think about austinites the same way that austinites think about californians.
Dale: I'm sure of it yeah.
Scott: Oh it's so funny.
Brooks: And then uh you want to talk about the the weather event you experienced there.
Dale: Yeah there was a weather event that's for sure um dale.
Scott: Saved our lives.
Dale: Yeah well we were lucky uh clinton and i were up late um we both are kind of
Dale: like night owls and uh so we were up for a while on the back patio just hanging
Dale: out and we saw the lightning coming in this was maybe like 1 30,
Dale: and so we're like oh so it looks like it's probably gonna rain tonight and then
Dale: all of a sudden we hear these sirens going off like what the hell are those
Dale: tornado sirens and like it's clearly tornado sirens but they're off in the distance
Dale: and everything so they weren't super loud it's.
Scott: Just got that spooky drone to it.
Dale: Yeah spooky drone long drawn out and everything
Dale: and uh and so we were like well that's interesting and so i went back in the
Dale: house to grab my phone look for weather alerts and when i went inside over the
Dale: air conditioning in the house you could like you couldn't even hear the tornado
Dale: sirens so if we were already in bed sleeping,
Dale: we wouldn't have known yeah i was sleeping yeah and i wasn't getting local alerts
Dale: uh for weather either i was still is still thinking i was in austin apparently
Dale: and so i had to get it set so that it was actually thinking I was in Bentonville
Dale: and I would get the local alerts.
Dale: And so I got the tornado warning. I was like, oh, apparently there's a tornado
Dale: warning for Bentonville.
Dale: And then a little while later, we got another warning that was like pretty targeted.
Dale: It was like precise location sort of thing, you know.
Scott: It actually said our Airbnb number on it.
Dale: Right, you will die. Yeah, and so, you know, we're stubborn for a bit,
Dale: just kind of looking out the window. and um,
Dale: kind of just seeing what was going to happen and then i think once the rain
Dale: band started going literally like sideways and like branches were hitting the
Dale: side of the house we're like all right it's probably time to seek shelter and
Dale: so we knocked on their door woke them up,
Dale: huddled in the bathroom and no sooner than we got in the bathroom we hear this
Dale: boom and um you can tell like there's wind starting to buffet at my bedroom
Dale: door and everything and the window just blew in,
Dale: like, I guess just from the air pressure and everything.
Dale: And so grabbed all my camera gear out of there really quick.
Dale: Uh, probably shouldn't have fussed with any of that, but it did.
Dale: And, uh, I would have. Yeah. Well, yeah. And, uh, so got all the camera gear
Dale: out there, threw it in the bathroom with us.
Dale: And, uh, and then just, we kind of wrote it out and, uh, Clint was smart enough
Dale: to like put the pane of glass, like back up against the windowsill and prop
Dale: it in with like a broomstick.
Dale: so it kept the room from getting like too too badly soaked but by the time it
Dale: was over like everything was soaked in there um the neighborhood was just screwed
Dale: up like the neighbor's house had a tree on it every.
Scott: House had a tree on it.
Dale: Yeah the car across the street had a tree on
Dale: it yeah and the people across the street
Dale: they're um in town for bike fest i think there
Dale: were some other folks on the street as well for bike fest and so
Dale: like there's obviously a lot of airbnbs in the the area and our
Dale: friends were there too they had rentals and we
Dale: were getting texts from them um and
Dale: then we were also watching brett tippy and dylan
Dale: were live streaming from aaron ross's airbnb there they're like we'll try to
Dale: save the airbnb aaron and uh and so that was like kind of comic relief for the
Dale: whole thing like i probably would have been a little bit more nervous if it
Dale: wasn't for the fact that like so many of our homies were experiencing this exact
Dale: same situation that we that we were going through.
Dale: But a couple of the folks were like way worse than we were.
Dale: they um jackie and kevin's airbnb like their whole uh guest room they.
Scott: Sent me a photo it's just water.
Dale: Coming in crushed by a tree and then um and
Dale: then austin's airbnb they had like branches sticking through the ceiling of
Dale: the living room and their entire back patio was uh knocked down by a tree and
Dale: before we were even able to leave on sunday we had to actually um chainsaw this
Dale: huge tree at the, up at the top of the road.
Dale: And so it was like kind of weird, but yeah, it is, um, that,
Dale: I mean, 39 years of getting tornado warnings in Austin and I've never really
Dale: paid much attention to them.
Dale: And then this was the first time it actually mattered and we could tell like,
Dale: and the next day the helicopter was flying, what I assume would be the storm damage path.
Dale: It was like a block and a half away from where we were.
Scott: Yeah. When Dale, Dale's like get in the bathroom, tornado. nato
Scott: i was like oh okay it's just gonna be a little windy and
Scott: i opened the door and just like absolute pandemonium and
Scott: i was like oh thank you so much dale yeah but yeah
Scott: the homies kind of you know all the
Scott: homies being out there like some of the guys are posting like there's a million
Scott: ticks out apparently they were calling tick nato and stuff like that like so
Scott: it was a really tough situation for a lot of people but you know i i talked
Scott: to some of the people at bike fest and And everybody seems to be doing good
Scott: and volunteering and getting to trails back.
Scott: And, you know, everybody's feeling, from what I can tell, like,
Scott: you know, banding together over there.
Scott: So, scary stuff. But, I mean, you know, they're resilient.
Dale: Yeah. And I wonder, too, like, well, I doubt it's going to change much.
Dale: But I did see, like, on Reddit, after the tornado came through and everything,
Dale: some of the locals were, like, questioning how many Airbnbs are in the area.
Dale: And if it's good for the community, because typically in like a situation like
Dale: that, the community bands together and helps each other out,
Dale: helps each other recover.
Dale: Like you got a house or a tree in your house and your neighbors might help you out. Right.
Dale: But there are no neighbors in Bentonville. They live in another state.
Dale: And so you might never actually see them. You know, you'll only ever see the
Dale: insurance adjusters out there and then whatever construction crews are going
Dale: to do, whatever they got to do.
Dale: And so, um, I think there was kind of like this, um,
Dale: realization from this storm for some of the locals that there is not much of
Dale: a robust locals community there and that there's a lot of tourism stuff,
Dale: but I don't know if it necessarily matters to us down here in Austin,
Dale: but it was something that I thought was kind of interesting.
Scott: It is interesting. Yeah.
Brooks: Uh, anywhere else you've been riding lately? Yeah.
Scott: Um, local or like kind of.
Brooks: Or like trips. Yeah.
Scott: Dale, I'm, I have no memory for this man. Where did I go last?
Scott: Was it green river classic with my last trip?
Dale: Yeah. I think before, um, before we went to California, you had gone to green river classic. Yeah.
Scott: That was a amazing trip. So trying to get back this year, hopefully, you know, you can go.
Dale: Yeah. I would love to.
Scott: I mean, a little side note. Um, I'm always curious about your perspective, Dale.
Scott: Cause like, you know, we've gone on trips, you know, doing filming and stuff
Scott: like, you know, what's your favorite part of coming out and lugging a camera
Scott: around and, you know, getting to see, you know, other people ride or maybe try
Scott: and film me do some crazy stuff.
Dale: I mean, I've always felt like I've lived vicariously through people.
Dale: You know, there's a lot of things that I think it would be sick to be able to
Dale: do, but I can't do myself.
Dale: And, and so it's neat to be able to tell stories about that sort of stuff and,
Dale: um, and be able to be like right there.
Dale: And I, plus I've never really been like afraid of, um, I mean, I'm shy myself.
Dale: I don't really necessarily like to be on camera.
Dale: Um, but I've also never been like afraid to stick a camera in someone famous's
Dale: face and ask them questions or something like that.
Dale: Um, I just like talking to people and finding out what people think about things and tell the story.
Dale: And so, yeah, that's, that's, what's fun for me.
Dale: Um, is is just getting out and finding ways
Dale: to uh tell stories and also to get
Dale: sick shots like i think it's neat to try to up the game just like you're trying
Dale: to up your riding game up up the shooting and get like better shots cooler looking
Dale: shots like the shot that clint did today that was cool he was following you
Dale: with the phone like that's really sick that one i sent you where they use
Dale: two different vehicles to do like a follow cam sort of
Dale: thing that's really sick and then there's the
Dale: technology aspect of it it's like a big legos kit sort of and so you get to
Dale: play around with gear which is always sick um but yeah i think and and just
Dale: being able to go to cali and kind of travel with you and um see that whole side
Dale: um i think that's pretty cool yeah.
Scott: It's super fun man i always have these ideas that we're going to be doing a
Scott: shoot for something one day you're gonna have a glide clan glide cam and a budget
Scott: of red bull budget or something.
Dale: You know but like you.
Scott: Know we always send each other videos to commence all you know videos where
Scott: they do a really good job or the yt.
Dale: Videos um.
Scott: And i always love the behind the scenes like the braga video like for his x
Scott: games real mtb part i don't.
Dale: Know if you guys saw.
Scott: The behind the scenes i know you did.
Dale: Yeah but.
Scott: Like that's the stuff to get me gets me even more stoked um.
Scott: Little side note, one thing that's kind of funky about freeride,
Scott: and it's a big reason I like to travel and try and meet people.
Scott: I don't know if the freeriders out there who are successful,
Scott: see it the same way I do, but suspension's confusing.
Scott: Um, you know, all these crazy tricks on big bikes, like, you know,
Scott: it's, it is a huge learning curve.
Scott: At least there is for me, like huge. It took me, I don't know,
Scott: maybe I'm just slow, but it took me three years to realize what freeride was.
Scott: Um, you know, I want to pick people's brains. I want people to,
Scott: you know, help. I'm always like asking a million questions of people.
Scott: Um, I mean, let's put it this way.
Scott: I've been trying to figure out how to set my suspension up for big stuff for a long time.
Scott: Uh, did a clinic with Kyle straight. He got on my bike. He goes,
Scott: this is way harder than I'd ride it. Even at rampage.
Scott: I looked at Kyle. I was like, dude, this is embarrassing. I took like 30 PSI
Scott: out last night. Cause I had a feeling you'd say that he's like,
Scott: dude, what are you doing?
Scott: Um, so, you know, a big part of traveling for me is love, you know,
Scott: like, and you leveling up and just trying to figure this whole thing out.
Scott: And I know you and I have been talking about maybe doing a video,
Scott: um, starting, starting to film some dead man, freaking street spots and craziness
Scott: and builds and stuff like that.
Scott: But, you know, for me, I appreciate you coming, coming along and,
Scott: you know, having similar visions that I do.
Scott: And, and you're awesome to film with too, man.
Scott: Cause I'm like, Oh, I messed up one more time, one more time,
Scott: one more time, a million times. You're just like, dude, you got it.
Scott: You got it. You got it. So, um, yeah, it's.
Dale: It's fun to, it's fun to film. I mean, it's fun to work with you.
Dale: Um, like it was cool going to California and I mean, I'll see some of the features
Dale: and maybe I'll keep my mouth shut cause I don't want to, you know,
Dale: I want to be positive and stoke you up. But thank you.
Dale: You know, when we get to Dylan Stark's little bandit venue there for the four
Dale: 20 jam and I'm looking at these features, I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. This is insane.
Dale: And, uh, and then like the natural dirt step up when we went over and looked at that.
Dale: And it was kind of like, I could tell that you had set it in your mind.
Dale: Like, that's okay. That's the warmup.
Dale: That's the first thing that you're going to hit. And I'm looking at,
Dale: I'm like, that's the first thing you're going to hit. That's insane.
Dale: And it was just so huge. And then, yeah, you dropped
Dale: right into it and hit it and cleaned it and it was like oh okay
Dale: well we're set here we're cooking now and and then everything else looked relatively
Dale: cool you know i was like all right scott's got this you know he'll he'll have
Dale: to work through it but um yeah i think it's funny like the the crux kind of
Dale: ended up being that long and low after all dude the.
Scott: 30 foot hip long and low or whatever it was that thing was it was scarier than the big 12 foot lip.
Dale: Yeah sometimes.
Scott: The things you don't expect set up jumps, you know.
Dale: I'm sure you feel like pressure when you're about to roll into that stuff too,
Dale: especially when it's like around other athletes and everything.
Dale: And you got other people's, I mean, you got like Bender is out there announcing
Dale: everybody rolling in, you know? And so you got Josh Bender freaking announcing
Dale: you as you jump into this line.
Scott: In the past two months, I've had Josh Bender and Brett Tippie announcing me
Scott: as I'm riding, like, you know, jams, whatever.
Scott: It's not like, it's not like, but, oh my God.
Scott: Right. Like, you know, I want to say childhood me is freaking out,
Scott: but me as of, you know, when I learned about these guys three years ago is freaking out as I'm riding.
Scott: It's, you know, but I love it. I love that sort of pressure does it for me too.
Dale: Yeah.
Scott: So, yeah, it's, it's, it's wild and it's kind of scary. It's nerve wracking,
Scott: but it's also like the best feeling, at least for me.
Brooks: Well, it's an interesting time we're in where you don't have to be like the
Brooks: greatest sports anything to make money doing sports because you can just like
Brooks: make very short videos and upload to social media and be successful that way.
Brooks: You can get sponsors that way. Like they don't care if you're an amazing writer.
Brooks: They just care that you're showcasing the brand and the people are watching your videos.
Scott: I love that personally. personally i mean like
Scott: there's so many people with very different viewpoints and
Scott: uh you know whether you're like a comedy you know
Scott: tiktoker or instagram guy or you know you're one
Scott: of those guys who can do all the crazy tricks in the world or maybe you're just
Scott: on a journey you know like hey i'm i'm trying to you know figure out how to
Scott: do cooler stuff and set up my bike like i don't know i love i love help and
Scott: information i i benefit from that a lot so it's cool it's not it's not like it used to be.
Scott: Like I always looked at NBA and everybody's trying to shoot the same shot or
Scott: football there, you know, there's creativity in it, but to a point, right?
Scott: Baseball creativity, but to a point, um, you know, I was, I always saw like Scotty Pippen.
Scott: I used to watch the bulls back in the day, Jordan Pippen.
Scott: And he took the ball, like he was on the sidelines and he had to pass the ball
Scott: in and he bounced it off somebody's back and took it in back in himself.
Scott: I'm like that little bit of creativity is what really did it for me.
Scott: And, um, if we were all focusing on the
Scott: best rider i feel like it'd become homogenized right yeah uh bmx has an
Scott: underground right now that's a lot of really cool creative
Scott: riding but the kind of pro level the
Scott: the people making money at contests they're doing a lot of the same stuff like
Scott: it's just one more tailwhip triple tailwhips 360 triple tailwhips backflip double
Scott: tailwhips right um i'm really i feel really happy that social media allows for
Scott: all the different creativity and different approaches which is to our sport and the fun behind it.
Scott: Even the people who are in vans, you know, showing off their vans so you can
Scott: go out and ride and not have to ride a corporate job.
Scott: Like to me, that's just as valuable as seeing somebody do a 60 foot drop or,
Scott: you know, whatever other cool, you know, thing a mountain biker would do.
Dale: I think people are just looking for genuine characters that resonate with them too.
Dale: You know, like even if you're not the best, if they see a little bit of themselves
Dale: in you, then you're their new favorite writer.
Dale: Like those kids when we were at RPR, you know, and they were like,
Dale: they're your freaking biggest fans. They're like, you're the best writer ever.
Dale: And you're hitting that quarter pipe. They're like, yo.
Scott: It's funny you say that, man. I've always said I love characters.
Scott: I guess maybe it's just me growing up being kind of on the shyer side as a kid.
Scott: like i love people who aren't afraid to just be themselves and be wacky and
Scott: be interesting and you know um being an individual is amazing i always tried
Scott: to kind of blend into the background so i take a lot of inspiration from those
Scott: people so yeah characters man um i mean just it just makes the world that much richer well.
Brooks: What i was i was getting is that you know you guys could work together and and
Brooks: start a business if you really wanted to.
Scott: Okay talk to me i mean.
Dale: Investment tips with bro.
Scott: I was just saying you know.
Brooks: You could be a pro rider and that wouldn't necessarily mean that you're you
Brooks: know racing or competing or any kind of competitions but you know just like
Brooks: making videos and putting them online and getting sponsorships and look at matt.
Dale: Jones the guy can't even fakey and.
Brooks: He's out.
Scott: There he's.
Dale: Everybody's favorite writer.
Scott: Yeah but he could do everything but i know i'm just kidding i'm.
Dale: Just kidding don't at me matt.
Scott: But but no you're right you're right um and that that's a really cool thing
Scott: and that's something that i mean it's It's a dream.
Scott: You really have to be something special for that to work though.
Scott: I mean, I think there's more money in mountain biking than there is in BMX,
Scott: but I still don't think there's a lot of money where people can make,
Scott: unless you're the upper echelon, unless you're like, I don't know how well normal
Scott: mountain biker does, but I imagine he does pretty well in social media or,
Scott: you know, Christian Pepper. I think he rides full time. He's got a family.
Scott: He has to be, you know, living well enough to support his family.
Scott: But yeah, that's, that's the dream. If you have any ideas.
Brooks: Well, I'm just saying, you don't have to be like crazy good.
Brooks: you just have to make a lot of videos and post them often you know what i mean
Brooks: you're right that's the key to if you wanted to to kind of monetizing that uh that path if.
Scott: You have any suggestions for how to actually monetize that path let me know.
Brooks: I mean it just comes with it's like all things and you know social media and
Brooks: youtube and all that kind of stuff is people it starts with a passion and you
Brooks: have to do it and you have to do it a lot and you have to care about it um and
Brooks: it might take years and years but eventually you know you amass a certain size
Brooks: following and then you hear from corporate people and they want to put their
Brooks: name in your videos and then again you know they don't care if you're the best
Brooks: rider in the world they just care that people are seeing their brand now.
Scott: You're right you know i see people sponsored by like i guess ford right like
Scott: the bronco and stuff like that like um who would have thought of that yeah outdoor
Scott: lifestyle browns and stuff like that yeah so,
Scott: Get at me, Ford.
Brooks: All right, we got some community questions here.
Brooks: So Jason Carney asks, Fufanu or Abubka?
Scott: Abubka.
Brooks: I'm glad you knew what that was.
Scott: I say Abubka because, you know, coming back in fakie seems harder,
Scott: but when you're going to stall on your back tire in the coping,
Scott: I don't want to turn around and flip over. Yeah, Abubka.
Dale: That was probably the best question on the list right there.
Brooks: Yeah.
Scott: Thanks, Jason. You're the man.
Brooks: Dale asked, mayo or Miracle Whip?
Dale: Oh my God.
Scott: Do I have to pick? Can I say mustard or horseradish?
Dale: Yeah.
Scott: I'm a mustard guy, man.
Dale: Absolutely. I don't know how that question ended up on the paper.
Scott: Definitely mayo.
Brooks: You posted it.
Scott: Definitely mayo. Dude, I've been on a health journey trying to get myself in
Scott: shape for lots of endeavors and shenanigans.
Brooks: Well, that's good because that's our next question from Ray Frazier is,
Brooks: what is your training regimen if any.
Scott: Man okay so i started taking help more seriously probably about a year and a
Scott: half two years ago um dealing with old injuries dealing with some injuries that
Scott: keep cropping up um and just not performing the way i want to like like i said i have uh aspirations so,
Scott: started working with a bunch of personal trainers um they just kept injuring
Scott: me uh eventually found on this doctor named Dr.
Scott: Sam LaCroix. He's at the whole athlete and he's amazing.
Scott: I haven't been hurt from any of my old injuries since I started working with him.
Scott: So I'm in the gym night after night. Um, I do cardio rides.
Scott: I do walks to kind of help myself, um, deal with some of that stuff.
Scott: And, uh, yeah, so I'm, I'm locking in. I'm meal prep my, well,
Scott: my wife meal preps for me. Thank you, Taylor.
Scott: Cause I'm so scatterbrained, but yeah, I eat two meal preps per day.
Scott: And then, And, you know, whatever she's having for dinner, if it's not something
Scott: healthy, I'm meal prepping again.
Scott: So, working, I'm down quite a bit of weight. I'm getting stronger.
Scott: I'm not getting hurt as much. The old injuries aren't bothering me.
Scott: So, yeah, I'm full on. But Dr. Sam is amazing.
Brooks: Excellent. Next question is from Lionel Hernandez. And it's the obligatory question,
Brooks: is clipless or flats? Clipless.
Scott: I used to joke, if you, if I ever, you ever see me clips, just push me off a
Scott: cliff, um, you know, but, but I'm developing appreciation for other things.
Scott: I probably will never ride clips in my life, but I mean, you know,
Scott: you said you just got a gravel grinder.
Scott: Clint, Clint, uh, Cactus Flats Newman used to talk about, you know,
Scott: riding his gravel grinder.
Scott: And I'm just like, dude, I can't imagine it. Now I can imagine it,
Scott: you know, I'm, but I'm also seeing like the, the health aspect of riding too.
Scott: And, you know, I want to live a long time.
Scott: so maybe if i get a gravel grinder do you clip in on those i.
Dale: Don't clip in on anything.
Scott: I'm never clipping in i follow what dale says i'm not a graceful person i.
Dale: Have no balance clips would probably kill me.
Scott: Yeah i'd probably end up clint clint.
Dale: Rides trail clipped in.
Scott: Yeah i will no flats all day ddt max on every bike i ride yeah.
Dale: Uh specifically flats that have most of their pedal pins just falling out so no traction.
Brooks: Yeah i mean i like i like flats just because is you really need to be for what
Brooks: we're doing you know is to be able to get your foot off quickly.
Scott: Yeah um.
Brooks: But yeah definitely if i'm on gravel or road or whatever um i definitely run
Brooks: clipless for that um there is like an extra some extra efficiency there um it's
Brooks: also like your foot is constantly in exactly the right position so yeah that's
Brooks: you know like trying to constantly move your foot around to get it in.
Scott: The right position the right tool for the job yeah little side note is kind
Scott: of odd um i always felt uncomfortable on my pedals every pedal bmx pedals mountain
Scott: bike pedals until i got the ddt max they're gigantic size 13 foot yeah game
Scott: changer yeah absolute game changer for me i'm.
Brooks: The same way um i mean hands and feet i wear double xl gloves and i still rip
Brooks: them because they're too small.
Scott: Dang man wow yeah yeah the right tool for the right job i mean i'm neurotic
Scott: about bike setup i don't take care of my bike at all but if something's off, I can't, I can't ride.
Brooks: Uh wdz our wdz howard asked flour or corn oh.
Scott: Flour all day i've only had corn tortillas once that i liked i know they're
Scott: traditional this was like a
Scott: traditional place it was amazing but not the best mexican food ever flour.
Brooks: But you deal oh yeah flour yeah team flour all around nice.
Scott: I should have asked.
Brooks: Um brian preston asks how much did the bmx background lend to doing higher level
Brooks: tricks and skills when transitioning to MTB.
Brooks: Do you think you'd be where you are skill wise without that background?
Scott: No, I don't think so at all. BMX is, is huge for, for tricks.
Scott: I mean, think about the nature of the bike. I mean, it's tiny,
Scott: you have to control everything.
Scott: So mountain bikes, they're not easy to control and they're very grounded.
Scott: They're big bikes, big wheels.
Scott: I still try and ride my mountain bike like a BMX, but I also have that reference
Scott: point. And I also had a ton of tricks that I get to bring over.
Scott: Adapting them has not been too hard. Can-cans are a little different,
Scott: higher top tube, you know, knack-knack, stuff like that.
Scott: But for the most part, to be honest, I find the tricks easier on the mountain
Scott: bike just because maybe it's because I'm a bigger guy and I feel like the bike fits me better.
Scott: It always used to take me, excuse me, it used to take me like an hour to warm
Scott: up on my BMX bike, just, but I don't think I've ever had a BMX bike that actually fit me.
Scott: um but yeah the the bmx background will help like crazy um get a bmx bike find
Scott: a fly out and just and just start throwing tricks and then you can just bring
Scott: it to your mountain bike super easy i.
Brooks: Actually did get one and i i couldn't do it man it's just.
Scott: Crazy right too small.
Brooks: It's too twitchy um but i think the the dj is a good middle ground for me.
Scott: Dj is definitely a good middle ground yeah really good and something funny that
Scott: i heard i'm curious if you guys agree,
Scott: someone said that uh djs are really good because it's
Scott: near impossible to go from like a full-size mountain
Scott: bike to a bmx in the same day without taking like hours
Scott: to get acclimated but you can go from a mountain bike to a
Scott: dj or a dj to a bmx back and forth um but yeah it'd be very difficult to go
Scott: from like a bmx to a mountain bike or vice versa yeah it's interesting right
Scott: djs are great though i'm still trying to figure out djs they i don't know if
Scott: it's a mountain bike or bmx and it literally scrambles my brain every single time it.
Brooks: Is neither it is.
Dale: I my my uh i've always heard it described as a mountain bike so.
Scott: Me too yeah also all the real mtb parts people were on dirt jumpers and i was
Scott: i don't know why i was surprised it's cool there are mountain bikes but i was
Scott: i was surprised to see that i guess they are technically mountain bikes yeah.
Brooks: I mean i always explain it in the way that like mountain bikes you know you're,
Brooks: most of the time you're just cruising down the trail right and you might have
Brooks: a feature here and there that you play around with.
Brooks: But when you're on BMX, that's like literally the only thing you do.
Brooks: There's no trail to ride. You just do tricks the whole time.
Scott: That's exactly right. I mean, it's the whole point of it, right?
Scott: As long as you're not, you know, it's not actual BMX racing.
Scott: Yeah. You're, you're riding jumps, you're riding street or park or not to me,
Scott: people ride flatland, but still that's focused around tricks and proficiency on the bike.
Scott: So yeah, BMXs are, are definitely helped me immensely.
Scott: Um, I did get on my bmx recently and i was just like this thing is so small
Scott: i couldn't ride it but i do want to build one up um yes definitely gonna build one up.
Brooks: Um so chris armstrong asks without context hard or soft go.
Scott: Hard every day based.
Dale: On your suspension setup too i would have to say that's accurate.
Scott: Yes i.
Brooks: Think we may have covered this one already but uh johnny cadenzano asks dirt
Brooks: Dirt jumper or full squish for progressing into bigger jumping slash tricks?
Dale: That's kind of a different question.
Scott: For me, full squish all day. For everybody else, I'd say dirt jumper.
Scott: It's just like, I feel like there's a lot more to control. It's a lot bigger bike.
Scott: Yeah. It just, for me, I feel like my downhill bike is the perfect bike.
Scott: It feels like what I always wanted a BMX bike to feel like. That's why I have
Scott: it set up for bar spins and tail ups and stuff.
Scott: But I'm 6'3", and I just, I don't know. It feels like a...
Scott: gigantic bmx bike for me for going insane um but for most people i definitely recommend dirt jumper i.
Dale: Think i would i would agree i would agree with uh full squish
Dale: but for like different reasons um and like
Dale: i think it's i think it's stability and uh forgiveness so um on on a dj it still
Dale: retains a little bit of that bmx twitchiness and so the the big bike's going
Dale: to be more stable I think for a lot of people.
Dale: And then when you land, you're going to have a lot more suspension and a lot more forgiveness.
Dale: And so me, somebody who gets scared of big jumps, if I was to approach it and
Dale: you were to say, Hey, here's two different options.
Dale: You can pick the big bike or the dirt jumper. I'd be like, please give me that big bike.
Dale: Um, that's interesting.
Scott: I feel like you have more. So, you know, like BMXs are made for more for precision, right?
Scott: I feel like for bigger jumps, having a little bit more precision,
Scott: like knowing what your bike's going to do off the lip.
Scott: lip because there's been plenty of times i've hit a lip on my
Scott: full suspension and just gotten pitched in the strangest way because i didn't
Scott: hit the preload properly or you know my back suspension the rebound is set up
Scott: a little bit maybe too fast for a jump like that so i feel like you know i guess
Scott: it's ch's own but i feel like the dirt jumper is more predictable um and then
Scott: is it for tricks or just for you know for bigger jumps yeah.
Dale: Bigger jumps bigger tricks.
Scott: The other thing too is like do a can can on a bmx bike or a dirt jumper you're
Scott: gonna throw your leg over on the third try on a, on a big, you know, full suspension bike.
Scott: Like it's, you have to bring your knee up to your chin, kick it out.
Scott: It's like, it's, it's just so different.
Scott: It's bigger, but you're also kind of like more planted. It's harder for you
Scott: to throw yourself around.
Scott: So I think also the bike follows you when you get really good on a BMX or a
Scott: dirt jumper, the bike can follow you.
Scott: So if you want to lean over and throw that can-can, the bike just leans under
Scott: you and throw your leg out.
Scott: When you're on a mountain bike, Like it's kind of like there's a huge,
Scott: it's also fighting your body. So I don't know.
Dale: I think if you're talking about like progressing, which that kind of is,
Dale: your point, you know, holds water because you get a lot of that like finer control.
Dale: And I guess maybe you don't learn bad habits. You don't pick up big habits on the full suspension.
Dale: um but yeah if you were to just say dump dump me in front of a big jump and
Dale: say here's two different bikes you can pick for this what are you going to pick
Dale: that makes sense that full squish yeah yeah uh.
Brooks: Lee compton asks toilet paper rolls in or out.
Scott: In is wrong out for sure incorrect underhanded fashion i will change i'm not
Scott: like ocd about many things this i will change it i.
Dale: Think the simpsons answered this question.
Scott: Really yeah they said out right yes yes yeah the the.
Dale: Underhanded fashion was incorrect.
Brooks: Okay so the correct answer is out yes all right uh.
Scott: Last question last.
Brooks: Question i have um and then i think you have some more on on instagram um chris
Brooks: would ask top three bike parks in america.
Scott: I've only been to whistler trestle angel fire i think those are the only ones i've been to um,
Scott: dude i mean okay so take this a grain of salt whistler is much more suited to
Scott: what i'm looking for um the first time i went was all about jumping had an absolute
Scott: blast the second time i went um Um,
Scott: I went with Seth and Alex single track sampler and we, it was, it was raining.
Scott: I was glad I was with them because they showed me about tech and I fell in love with tech at that point.
Scott: Um, when I went to Trestle and Angel Fire, there were a bunch of good jumps,
Scott: but I was looking for tech. Maybe I was looking for the wrong thing.
Scott: Um, but somebody described it as these parks are fun because you want to go
Scott: as fast as you can. Like that, that's your goal.
Scott: Um, I don't look to go fast necessarily. Speed doesn't do it for me.
Scott: um you know flirted with the idea of racing under mtb atx and i think we're
Scott: gonna get some races going on if we.
Dale: Can stop getting injured.
Scott: Dude but um yeah i think uh i think whistler whistler and whistler for me um
Scott: you know those other parks are awesome i i probably would love them if i focused
Scott: on the jumps at that time well.
Brooks: Did it ask specifically about america u.s.
Scott: Oh dang um Um.
Dale: Oh, that's right.
Scott: Oh, free ride. Sorry.
Brooks: For sure. I like that one. Yeah.
Scott: Station mountain for sure. Uh, no state station mountains. Great.
Scott: Cause it focused on jumping.
Scott: Um, I love riding spider. Uh, you know, the thing about spider too,
Scott: is like for me learning how to handle the bike in more of like a race scenario,
Scott: it's, it's perfect. It's got everything I need.
Scott: So I guess, what can I say? Station spider for sake of argument.
Dale: Let's call the bike park at Reveille Peak, a bike park too. Where does that fit into the question?
Scott: Number one.
Dale: Yeah. Number one.
Scott: I love, I love RPR. Yeah. Even before they built all that, when I first went
Scott: there, it's just something about the vibes and the dirt.
Scott: And it's just always been one of my favorite place feels really soothing to me.
Scott: So I, you know, having all those really cool features, it's just,
Scott: that's where I get in my like, you know, Zen place. And I could just ride there all day.
Scott: Even if just a trail, I love the trails out there too, but yeah,
Scott: the freeride stuff. So yeah, RPR, RPR is awesome.
Brooks: All right, what do you got next?
Scott: I got a couple things from Instagram.
Scott: Which is cool. Somehow Luca abruptly said, what inspires you?
Scott: That's a tough question to answer, man.
Brooks: It's a loaded question for sure.
Scott: Yeah.
Scott: I don't know how to answer that. I think that maybe being able to hang with
Scott: the people who I look up to inspires me.
Scott: I'm working to get better and better on the bike and the journey,
Scott: it's not the destination necessarily, it's the journey.
Scott: And I've always loved the road trip to the destination just as much,
Scott: you know, when we take off for Bentonville for a weekend, like,
Scott: I'm like, I'm stoked out of my mind, um, where are we stopping?
Scott: You know, what are we eating? What drinks are we getting? Which Starbucks or coffee shops?
Scott: So yeah, I think, uh, I think chasing it, man, just, just absolutely chasing
Scott: it and then getting little wins along the way or big wins along the way. Um, that inspires me.
Scott: That's, that's my favorite thing. So thank you for the question.
Scott: Uh, Taylor, my wife said, how do you get your arms so far back and tuck no handers?
Scott: the real answer i try them break the i try to break them off my body i literally
Scott: hurt every single time i try and break them off um it usually works pretty good
Scott: so good question um james trails,
Scott: this is interesting if it's okay could you create awareness uh for any mountain
Scott: biker considering visiting kenya uh there's bike trails oh.
Dale: I follow him.
Scott: Do you yeah yeah interesting guy yeah
Scott: so um i see you know a single track sampler
Scott: alex he goes to what peru ryan rodriguez
Scott: goes somewhere overseas too um and i
Scott: see some of the freeriders take trips out to more remote
Scott: locations with with on you know things that have never really been ridden before
Scott: and like there's a lot of different scenes going on all all over like not just
Scott: like well-established scenes like you see queenstown right in new zealand and
Scott: there are a lot of bike parks in europe but yeah i mean it's It's really cool
Scott: to see that. So shout out to anybody listening.
Scott: Kenya, go ride in Kenya. It's probably awesome.
Scott: Dale, we should go to Kenya next.
Dale: Okay.
Scott: Yeah, man. I don't know how good it is, but.
Dale: Right, right, right.
Scott: Ever drunk Baileys from a shoe?
Dale: Oh my God.
Scott: I'm old Greg.
Dale: Daniel Ricardo.
Scott: That's from my man, Taylor Ernest. So good question, I think.
Scott: My man, Carson Wooten. So I lived in Utah for about six months,
Scott: moved out there for the riding.
Scott: I moved right in the beginning of winter. It's just kind of how it worked out.
Scott: I'm dumb and didn't realize Virgin's three and a half hours away.
Scott: I had to go to Salt Lake because that's kind of where my office was located.
Scott: So I didn't really get out to Virgin aside from when I went to Rampage.
Scott: But I don't know that I am coming back to Utah to live, even though I've talked
Scott: to Taylor about that a little bit.
Scott: But soon, man, I'm going to get out there. I'm going to get there as soon as
Scott: I possibly can. So I'll hit you up.
Scott: My man, Jamin Burgess, dude. So his question is, where's the first spot you jumped a bike?
Scott: He actually built some trails behind a gas station down in a town that I lived
Scott: in. And they were unbelievable.
Scott: Like, like they were really, really, really good.
Scott: I made fast friends with him and I'm still friends with him to this day.
Scott: I almost got kicked out of the trails because they said, do not walk through the gas station.
Scott: You will get the trails plowed. This is before I knew anything.
Scott: And I walked through the gas station one day just to get out because I was late.
Scott: and uh one of the the guys named luke um i
Scott: mean these guys were like the scary older kids and i think
Scott: james like i don't know how much older but scary older
Scott: kids and i was wearing a red beanie he goes hey little red riding
Scott: hey little red riding hood get over here you're
Scott: dead and i just i think i ran and i
Scott: was scared to go back and every time i went back i'm like looking over my shoulder
Scott: trying to jump um but yeah uh it's uh it's i don't even know the name of the
Scott: trails man but that was the first place little spot in my town and then um i
Scott: think that's it man that's all that's oh that's all i got.
Brooks: What are your thoughts on, uh, electronic shifters and seat posts and things
Brooks: like that? Uh, have you tried them?
Scott: Hate them and love them and never tried them. Like, it'd be really cool to be
Scott: able to do, you know, the stuff I want to do, which I'm still working on,
Scott: like Barsman's and tailwhips and not have to take my bike apart every time.
Scott: You guys probably saw that ribbon that I have around my head tube today.
Scott: That's because I took my front brake and shifter off and I mounted my shifter
Scott: under the frame because I saw Dylan do it. It was a smart idea.
Scott: and um just took off my front brake and now i can bar spin my trail bike just
Scott: by doing that um so yeah i'd love to but i'm terrible at technology i'm terrible
Scott: with bike maintenance i will never remember to charge it i will show up with
Scott: my bike not functioning every single time,
Scott: so it's probably not going to happen for me anytime soon i'm more of that just
Scott: you know grab an allen key and modify it as best as i can and i'm a terrible bike mechanic so yeah i.
Brooks: Already know but i'm gonna ask you anyway dale what do you think oh.
Dale: As far as electronic yeah i'm i'm all about it yeah i mean i think a seat post
Dale: is probably a little excessive i don't really need that if i could have it i
Dale: would take it in a heartbeat,
Dale: somebody gave it to you yeah i love my access i
Dale: got it second hand for a good cost for a good price if you can find it that
Dale: way that's like the easiest way to do it uh but it's a game changer just being
Dale: able to mash the button and have the whole you know gear range at your disposals
Dale: it It helped with climbing because I'm a terrible climber. And so that helped a lot.
Dale: But yeah, I like it. I'm never going to support wireless braking if they want
Dale: to do any of that stupid crap.
Dale: Like always give me a mechanical connection, you know.
Scott: Yeah, shifting or seat. I'm kind of hoping Brooks is like, look under your chairs.
Scott: You have an electronic shifter.
Dale: Who is this podcast sponsored by?
Brooks: Oprah Winfrey.
Scott: And oprah went for your production all.
Brooks: Right uh last question for you scott uh what's next for scott smith.
Scott: Dude um i
Scott: i hate i hate talking about that because it's like you gotta you gotta call
Scott: your shot right and you gotta put it out there it's the sort of thing where
Scott: like oh okay i'm gonna you know i was talking to dale the other day or today
Scott: and i'm like i'm gonna do no-handed backflips i'm gonna do flat spins bar spins
Scott: tail whips by the end of this month month.
Scott: And so, you know, for me, like I was trying to call my shot,
Scott: but I call my shot in private a little bit.
Scott: If I had my, if I had my dream,
Scott: I would be able to go to invite-only competitions, big air competitions.
Scott: I'd be in Freeride Fiesta, Fireride Fest, you know, the Dark Fest.
Scott: Yeah, Dark Fest. Like, send me out there.
Dale: Starquake 2025.
Scott: Dude, yeah. I mean, that's, you know, dreams, right? Yeah. Like, 100%.
Scott: So, all I can really, I'm just going to control what I can control,
Scott: keep getting in better shape, and just keep on focusing on my craft,
Scott: and then just hanging out and hoping that had uh you know people like hanging
Scott: out with me enough to have me around and then just show out the best i can and
Scott: and hopefully just have a hell of a lot of fun doing it i hope you're successful because.
Dale: I'm gonna follow you around with a camera i.
Scott: Think i maybe could get successful if you follow me with a camera yeah hey some
Scott: crazy stuff bro because i mean teamwork i appreciate you so much hell yeah dude
Scott: i mean think about it like otherwise i got a tripod and an iphone and well Well.
Dale: So you already alluded to it on Instagram. So I guess what's next is making
Dale: a X game style street edit, right?
Dale: So we want to make a skateboarding style, BMX style, big bike in the streets, skate edit.
Brooks: We do like a full length.
Dale: No, no. We're going to try to follow that X games format, I think,
Dale: and just do a one and a half minute, you know, get your stack, your best clips you can.
Scott: Yeah.
Dale: And, uh, and just put all your A grade material in there and make a nice tight,
Dale: quick edit. it, maybe we can find some musicians or something to score that
Dale: bad boy for us and get some OG music in it.
Scott: Yeah. So I've done this before for
Scott: BMX. Um, you know, I, I definitely was pushing for, for BMX and, um, um,
Scott: It's my favorite thing to do. Yeah. Just like spot, just figure out spots,
Scott: do builds, and then just go in and just lay down hammer after hammer as best as you possibly can.
Scott: Cause it's like a, it's like a time capsule of, of where you are,
Scott: the absolute best that you're capable of at that moment.
Scott: And like, as you're doing it, you think about that. You're like,
Scott: I can't leave, I have to put it all on the table because this is me right now.
Scott: And then of course the goal is to put it out and then gear up to do something better every time.
Scott: Um, so yeah, my goal is to kind of, and it's weird because as a rider,
Scott: like you're like, oh yeah, you know, you have an idea of how good of a rider
Scott: you are, but once you want push comes to shove and you lay it down and you put
Scott: it on tape and you watch it, you're like, okay, this is where I am. This is what I got.
Scott: And if I, if I feel like I need to be better time to go back to the drawing
Scott: board and, and, you know, level it up again.
Scott: Yeah. I love it. So I'm, I'm hoping that Dale and I can, cause it's tough for Dale too.
Scott: I mean, tough for me, but like, you know, Hey Dale, I found this spot up in Lago Vista.
Scott: to it's it's off on a you know i'm jumping off the roof of a building like
Scott: i found out there's a building on the east side i'm going to jump off the roof
Scott: all right and that's like the logistics of
Scott: that showing up parking a neighborhood bringing crazy
Scott: expensive camera equipment crazy expensive bikes figuring out how to get on
Scott: top of the building like dale pushing me up a tree so i can climb up and throw
Scott: me my bike jumping off trying not to get the the cops called on you getting
Scott: the shot doing again oh i i didn't like the way i did that or hey you know i
Scott: didn't quite to get the shot I wanted over and over and over again.
Scott: Cool, Dale, next, you know, we're going to San Antonio for the next shot. Yeah, that'd be so.
Scott: Who has time for that? Except you got to make time, right? You have to be motivated and dedicated.
Scott: And like, you are so focused and I'm, you know, I try and be focused as well.
Scott: And like having somebody like-minded like that, who has a passion for their
Scott: craft and who wants to be something, I don't know, something exceptional,
Scott: hopefully exceptional, or at least like achieve a goal.
Scott: So that partnership is hugely important, man. You have no idea how much I appreciate
Scott: you for, you know, staying focused with me.
Dale: Oh, yeah, we'll progress together this year.
Scott: I hope so, man. I got some big plans for before the end of the year.
Brooks: All right. Well, any shout outs, socials, any websites, content information you want to give out?
Scott: Definitely shout out to the people who support me. Deity, I'm on their Fresh
Scott: Blood team. They're awesome.
Scott: MTBATX, Dale. video, um, golfer USA for breaks, uh, loose riders, um, for sure.
Scott: Um, I feel like I'm forgetting. Oh, Lomelander. I can't forget Lomelander.
Scott: Lomelander is, I just want to say something about Lomelander.
Scott: They're the first people who looked at me and said, Hey, you're on the team,
Scott: like totally organic. Like they're the best people in the world.
Scott: I actually just saw they were having a jam and I messaged them and said,
Scott: Hey, can I come out? I just want to come out, just hang out.
Scott: And I was like, sure, why not? So I actually went Went to one of the owner's
Scott: houses and just spent the day with them and then spent the next day hanging
Scott: out and riding to the park, um, became fast friends.
Scott: And they said, Hey, you know what, you want to be on a team?
Scott: And I'm hugely grateful for that because that's sort of, you know, for me, I'm.
Scott: Outside validation helps i don't know
Scott: if you guys are like that but for me i was like okay maybe maybe there's
Scott: something in this where i feel like i could do something um so huge shout
Scott: out to lumlander they're the best people in the world um what's
Scott: the other question oh socials socials um scott jp smith on instagram if you
Scott: want to give me a follow uh scott smith mtb on uh youtube i'm trying to make
Scott: videos i have a new video coming out from the 420 gem here pretty soon and then
Scott: um I don't post on TikTok because I don't get it,
Scott: but Scott Smith MTV on that, on TikTok.
Scott: I'll probably end up posting videos there too. Because yeah,
Scott: you're right. If you want to do something extraordinary, you have to push on all fronts, I guess.
Dale: No, stay strong.
Scott: Shout out to my wife, Taylor Moore.
Brooks: Don't do it.
Scott: Huge shout out to my wife. I can't do anything without her. She's like,
Scott: she's my inspiration. She's my freaking manager.
Scott: She's my brain. she's she is so insightful
Scott: and so helpful she's the reason i found the doctor that
Scott: i found like behind the scenes she does so much
Scott: um and i'm forever grateful for her supporting
Scott: my dream and um yeah she's the
Scott: best so huge shout out there shout out to you for
Scott: hanging out today and asking me to be honest that's amazing shout
Scott: out to you dale um and all the homies around austin i
Scott: mean there are too many to name but like we have the best community
Scott: here in austin i huge community yeah when i moved to utah i was like i messed
Scott: up now that i'm back i'm like i'm home i'm here with all these people and everybody
Scott: is um to getting after it their own way right with station mountain and and
Scott: the guys down at freeride 512 and um you know garrett over at east side and,
Scott: god i mean like we have an amazing spot here just such an amazing community
Scott: so austin's definitely home base for you know not leaving excellent.
Brooks: Well i think we'll wrap it up there um you've been listening to the austin mountain
Brooks: bike podcast as always i'm your host brooks lawson aka the mountain biking realtor
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Scott: Thanks guys thank you.